There is much ado about something that is definitely NOT nothing – the charging of Navy SEALs with assault after capturing one of the most wanted terrorists on the military’s radar. A feature on the Chicago Sun Times talks about one of the SEALs who were charged: Julio Huertas.
According to the feature, Huertas was born and raised in Blue Island, a suburb of Chicago. His family described him as “a dedicated and decorated Navy SEAL,” and they have high hopes that it is justice that will prevail.
The Sun Times source revealed that the assault charges brought against the SEALs did not stem from an incident related to the capture of the SEALs’ alleged accuser, Ahmed Hashim Abed. Apparently, the allegations were based on a report from a master-at-arms sailor who was assigned to guard Abed. The guard reportedly told a SEAL platoon commander that one of the SEAL operators had punched Abed in the stomach.
Whether it was a “punch in the gut” or a bloody lip, the accusations brought us to where we are now: the pressing of charges that include dereliction of duty, making a false statement and impeding an investigation against Navy SEAL Special Operator First Class Julio Huertas; assault of the detainee, dereliction of duty and making a false statement against Navy SEAL Special Operator Second Class Matthew McCabe; and dereliction of duty and making a false statement against Navy SEAL Special Operator Second Class Jonathan Keefe.
All three have refused to submit to non-judicial punishment, which may be viewed as just as good as admitting they were guilty; hence, the arraignment.
We still could not let go of the image of charred remains hanging over a bridge; it is difficult to feel calm, collected and sympathetic toward a suspect of such atrocity that law will consider as “innocent until proven guilty”.
November 30th, 2009 - 6:23 am
this makes me absolutely sick to my stomach. When are we going to open our eyes and see things for what they are. These HEROS being charged with beating up a terrorist? Give me a break. I can’t take this politically correct crap any longer. God bless these seals and their families. They better be found not guilty
November 30th, 2009 - 8:16 am
We have a good friend that is a Navy Seal and we have also participated in Navy Seal Challenges across the country. We respect their profession of standing in harms way to protect our freedom and way of life in the United States of America.
I cannot believe our country has come to the point where we are charging our own countrymen who protect our daily freedoms in lieu of a terrorist burning our own flesh and blood. The present Obama Administration does not represent this country the way our forefathers described in the Declaration of Independence. The are making a mockery of our country right before our very eyes. It saddens me that this man is the President of our good nation and the Commander in Chief of our armed forces. It is a daily disgrace, and I pray for God to protect us.
November 30th, 2009 - 9:15 am
I think this is an out radge!!!! these Navy SEALS did there job and if all he got was a punch to the gut he got of easy! i’ve heard and seen many times how tarorist get off and never get charged because of our justice system, they are sent back to their country and let go because their country thought what they did was Honerable. Not the Case! This should have been taken care of right way and been handled with care I agree but suffering a single punch aposed to maybe a sefisioned beating isn’t something to charge a VETERAN OF WAR! These Men should be Mettled Before being PUNISHED!!!!!
November 30th, 2009 - 9:51 am
Elections have consequences. I plan to wear out my knees and fingers in working to ensure the current political situation that enabled (encouraged?) this travesty will change for the better in ’10 and ’12. I pray I have lots of company.
November 30th, 2009 - 9:57 am
Please join me in your unconditional support of these team members. It is time to support the one who provide us our freedom. Here are some important points of contact and I encourage everyone to contact them. Also please contact your State and local representatives and demand atleast their position on this. I cannot think of anything more demoralizing than this.
Even though you didn’t request information on writing to the Department of Defense, this is another important way to support the Navy SEALs instead of donating funds. I’ve listed the operational chain of command which is SOCOM and the administrative chain of command which is the Navy. The General Officer determining the SEAL’s legal status (to court-martial or not) is Major General Charles T. Cleveland, USA, Commanding General for Special Operations Command/Central Command. The Navy is in charge of the personal actions and discipline of any court-martial proceeding. The Chief of Naval Operations and the Secretary of the Navy addresses are below. The military does not have to take these three Navy SEALs to court-martial. They can give them non-punitive letters that won’t interfere with the SEAL’s careers. These three SEALs refused CAPT’s MASS or Art 15 because they didn’t believe they would get a fair hearing.
Major General Charles T. Cleveland
SOCCENT/CC
7701 Tampa Point Boulevard
McDill AFB, FL 33621
Chief of Naval Operations
Admiral Gary Roughead
2000 Navy Pentagon
Washington DC 20350-2000
Secretary of the Navy
Honorable Ray Mabus
1000 Navy Pentagon
Washington DC 20350-1000
November 30th, 2009 - 10:17 am
The infiltration of political correctness into military code and conduct incapacitates those we send into harms way. It may predispose Spec-ops to indecision in situations requiring spontaneous decesion (what was all that training for?). To require a Seal to “rat-out” a fellow member would undermine and invalidate the code absolute: “no-man-left-behind”. The Exectitive Branch of Governments increasing indescretionary meddling in military affairs and national security is unwarranted and unproductive.
November 30th, 2009 - 2:28 pm
I demand that these three Seals be exonerated immediately.
We are in a war with savages that have proven to the world that they do not value human life or ‘rights’. They have given up any ‘rights’ offered by civilized peoples. We owe these inhumans nothing, absolutely nothing.
November 30th, 2009 - 5:44 pm
Responding to Ralph Phillips and your list of POCs: Is there a defense POC and if so, who or what entity will be in charge of providing for the three? Since the three refused Captain’s Mast, does this mean there will be a special court martial to determine innocense or guilt? If this is the case, can the three SEALs opt for some sort of civilian defense attorney? Lots of questions here but regarding the last one, if there is to be a civilian defense attorney and funds are needed, there’s a lot of people willing to provide!!
November 30th, 2009 - 6:26 pm
I, too, echo the sentiments of the other posters. The men who make the grade to be a Navy SEAL team member deserve our support and thanks. I would like to add one thing. To Julio Huertas, Mathew McCabe and Jonathan Keefe: Please accept my sincere apologies on behalf of the citizens you defend. It is a monumental tragedy that you must answer to…well, I’d better not elaborate. God bless you all.
December 1st, 2009 - 4:53 pm
I wonder if the JAG will hang ‘em from a minaret.
December 2nd, 2009 - 5:28 am
Rev. Michael Kirby (above) hit the nail on the head, and I think there is more to this story than we have heard. God bless the SEALs and thank you for your skill and bravery.
December 2nd, 2009 - 7:16 am
This sort of thing is EXACTLY why we should have demanded to see little barry’s long form birth certificate before permitting him to take the Oath. This incident is yet another example proving obama is NOT LOYAL to the United States of America.
December 2nd, 2009 - 12:18 pm
This was a detained individual who these Navy SEALs hit. They were not in the field, they were not fighting against an armed enemy. The man, although a terrorist, was unarmed. It was irresponsible for the SEALs to attack this unarmed man, and they need to learn that their actions will not come without consequences. You all make it seem like a person is unamerican if they criticize the actions of these SEALs. There is no doubt that their capture of this terrorist is undeserving of recognition. However, this is not the issue right now. The issue at hand is that three US Navy SEALs hit an unarmed detainee. No matter who the detainee was, they still attacked him while he had no defenses, and this unnecessary action deserves consequences. I would expect better from American soldiers.
December 2nd, 2009 - 7:01 pm
The made one mistake they didn’tbring him back in a black rubber bag..
December 3rd, 2009 - 7:51 pm
As a 25 year retired, US Army Vietnam Vet, I am ready to send my awards back to the defense dept. I am ashamed of our military leaders involved in this. These Navy Seals are the bravest of all of our fighting solders. War is hell but these men are our heros. How can obama let this happen. This country is in REAL trouble from within.
December 3rd, 2009 - 7:59 pm
Ref: My above comment. I was a CW4 Regular Army Officer and I have never seen anything like this in my life. One Big A__ mistake America.
December 4th, 2009 - 10:45 am
This whole thing has gotten way out of hand by the commanding officers,a minor citation is all that was ever needed.But now Mr. Cleveland is attempting to ruin the lives of three navy seals! Not to mention the cost of training for the seals and the court case all covered by the american taxpayer!
This is a complete travesty,these men should be released and general cleveland should recieve a demonition in rank.I have had family memembers in WW2,Korea and currently the Air Force. We are all DISGRACED by the Navy and it’s officers! Robert Austin
December 4th, 2009 - 12:09 pm
SVKovak response. First I apologize for my poor grammar in the original comment, a little emotional. The civilian firm listed below is representing one of the team members. The attorney is a retire combat veteran who specializes in representing our troops. I was not given a DOD contact.
As for Ian’s comments, which I normally don’t respond to ill informed/educated persons: Please go back and read your comment. Sounds like you were there and witnessed the alleged conduct. If you want to enrich your life spend some time with some special op guys and you will see that their character cannot be compromized. If they said they didn’t give this guy a fat lip, then enough said. I really don’t think you have a clue the unique morals and dedication these guys have. Seriously, would you believe the media over these guys? If you do I pray for you.
The Law Firm of Puckett & Faraj, PC
2181 Jamieson Ave, Suite 1505
Alexandria, VA 22314
phone: 888-970-0005
December 4th, 2009 - 4:57 pm
I can not beleave that our brave men who fight to keep us safe are being put through a bunch of bull mess. The goverment we have now wouldn’t know how to load a gun , much less shoot one and they are making these brave seals go through this travesty of a trial. SHAME ON YOU. This makes me want to hang my head in shame of the officials running this country. Let these me go, they are guilty of NO wrong doings. Shame on you and bury the news media, the wouldn’t know the truth if it bit them on the leg. These Officers who are persuading this should be busted in rank to let this happen to these men. I prey that they are wise enouf to drop the charges and set thes men FREE. This should never gotte this far in the first place. SHAME ON THE NAVY!!!!
December 6th, 2009 - 8:34 am
I think these Navy Seals should get the highest medal for there great servic they have done for our country should be praised for there work God bless our militery.
December 6th, 2009 - 11:23 am
It’s hard to believe that this is actually occurring! What has happened to this once proud nation, which knew its priorities, respected its military and believed in the Constitution? We have turned everything upside down.
God help us!
December 6th, 2009 - 7:31 pm
While it is true that Achmed Hashim Abedm was the primary suspect in the military’s “Objective Amber” after the horrific capture, mutilation and deaths of four Blackwater security guards, we must remember that he is still only suspect until proven guilty. I must concur with Ian; the man was already in custody and unarmed, and was being held until his release to Iraqi authorities where he complained of a busted lip. We cannot allow anybody within our local police forces nor our military to think that they can mistreat prisoners, no matter how heinous their crime. These Navy SEALS were not commissioned to interrogate the suspect. They were to retrieve and hold until further orders. It sets a terrible precedent to willingly approve this kind of behavior. Our entire constitution was established to diminish this sort of activity. No matter how slight the infraction there was evidently physical violence inflicted upon this suspect and that is what must be discouraged.
December 7th, 2009 - 2:58 pm
Folks remember in a few years to vote out these new socialist, and communist leaning leaders that are now in office. One remember Al Gore asked who Col Oliver North thought was the most dangerous person in 1987 in his questioning of Col Oliver North. Norht told him Osama Bin Ladin and they lauched at Col Oliver North. Then Clinton demanded Israel release the terroist Ada from Israel prison. Ada then flew one of the planes after his release into one of the Twin Towers. These leaders in Washington right now our ignorant both on our countries morals, and financial systems workings to the point of putting our whole society of danger and turning us, the USA into a third world nation. Remember this and vote them out as quick as we can. It will take years to undue these ignorant leaders damage they are doing now. We need someone in office who is not cut from these left liberal socialist, communist leaders now in charge. They are paying no attention to what is good for the country and runnning through their left wing agenda for us all to choke it down.
December 8th, 2009 - 1:10 am
All I can say is bombard MajGen Charles T. Cleveland’s office with email. He is the one responsible for pushing this issue. I’ve actually had the distinct displeasure of meeting him, and I can assure you that he lacks integrity. You can look into a mans eyes and know when he is lying to you.
Major General Charles T. Cleveland
SOCCENT/CC
7701 Tampa Point Boulevard
McDill AFB, FL 33621
December 8th, 2009 - 10:27 pm
Did I miss the general’s email address? SOMEONE must have a source for an email address for this misguided general AND/OR the court. Find one of the pencil pushers at SOCCENT/CC, impress on him or her the urgency of the issue and GET THAT ADDRESS POSTED! NOW!
Let’s be VERY sure this general understands clearly how servicemembers across the country feel about him, and the negative way he will be remembered and discussedfor the next decade or so if this travesty is allowed to play out.
Find it? Please email it to me at steve_pix@yahoo.com
It would be my distinct pleasure to express my (and/or our) displeasure.
December 10th, 2009 - 2:26 pm
Please read and consider signing the Human Events petition http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=34775 also would you pass this on to your contact list. The Editor of Human Events is Jed Babbin a former Under-Secretary of Defense. He has been doing everything he can to end this farce.
John Carl Roat
Class-29, UDT-21,UDT-11,SEAL Team 1
December 12th, 2009 - 2:49 am
I believe that these men, who so willingly and freely give themselves day in and day out to one of the most grueling occupations imagineable, are being treated completely unfairly. I’m not trying to sound racist, but this man was lauded with terrorists, therefore by my personal (albeit human) belief is that he is a terrorist and it doesnt matter if he ordered the actions to be carried out with the Blackwater members or not. As a Navy vet myself and having known personally and worked with several SEALs, I can say that if these SEALs DID rough this guy up, he should consider himself lucky that they didn’t do worse damage to him. I know that if it were me, I would have a hard time stopping after giving the old boy a rap to the mouth or a punch to the gut. It’s ridiculous that these SEALs are put under scrutiny for such a small, stupid, act. maybe they did act slightly unprofessional…but WHO AM I to judge these operators? I think theres a lot bigger issues the govt needs to work on other than these SEALs busting some punk in the mouth.
Hoo-yah SEALs.
December 12th, 2009 - 11:27 am
I can’t believe this ridiculas charges. I spent 20 years in the military and I feel that Mag Gen Charles Cleveland who is prefering the charges is absolutely wrong in doing so. He should immediately drop all charges. I wonder at his reason in doing this. DROP THE CHARGES>>>>>>>>>>>
January 1st, 2010 - 7:07 pm
It is totally unbelievable that the terrorist who murdered four american civilians,burned their bodies and hung them in effigy has a US guard ratting on one of the seals who punched him thus subjecting all three seals to court martial. Has the Army gone crazy? Is the muslim in the white house scaring the military?
The psychiatrist,who shot up many at Ft.Hood, was on Obuma’s task force.I’m sure he’s resting comfortably, while three of our well trained Seals,MISSION ACCOMPLISHED are facing court martial.This country is ready to rise up like never before.We are at war.Who’s in charge Al Quaida.Wake up Major Cleveland.You’re in a “no win” situation.FREE THE SEALS!
January 11th, 2010 - 7:43 am
Can someone please give me the email address of Major General Charles T. Cleveland
SOCCENT/CC
7701 Tampa Point Boulevard
McDill AFB, FL 33621
Thank You in advance,
Brad
ChiefBDT@earthlink.net
January 12th, 2010 - 10:48 am
I cannot believe the government is even considering prosicuting these Seals. This terrorist tortures, kills , mutilates people and we are concerned because he got punched in the lip. Enough of this politically correct garbage. Has BenLadin brought any of his people to trial for illigal acts? Not only should these men be released but we should decorate them and honor them.
January 12th, 2010 - 11:50 pm
Did I slip through a wormhole into some paradoxical universe? Oh wait, yes we all did, when this country elected this Charlatan Obama. The educated eyes of America have awoken.
January 26th, 2010 - 8:54 pm
The terrorist was lucky he walked out with his head intact. Drop the charges on these boys and let them get back to work. I can’t believe the Navy is letting this happen. Reeks os poor leadership. C Palek
February 21st, 2010 - 5:27 am
After reading a couple versions of what allegedly happened to this prisoner of war, noticed that everyone involved in this travesty has had their full names and home towns printed in national media. Have yet to see the full name, and home town of their “accuser”. I hope that if this ever does make it to court-martial proceeding that these warriors are judged by a jury of their peers. Makes me sick reading about what these young men have had to go through.
J. R. Jones
March 4th, 2010 - 9:27 am
The stupidity of Charles Cleveland (who doesnt deserve his title) is so sickening to this former Sailor, I almost UPCHUCKED my breakfast! Sad Sad day for America!
Why not put Chuckies job performance under a microscope! Oh, I already did, please resign Chuck, for the good of the Country!
March 4th, 2010 - 9:48 am
My only thought is why did they let him live. I fully suport the seals and there actions.
If the PR sensitive procecution continues it will be only for left wing approval and due so at there political perril.
Novenber we will get our say and I expect it will be LOUD!
March 4th, 2010 - 9:49 am
NOPE
March 4th, 2010 - 10:47 am
Has the Navy lost its mind. This man deserves no protection under our constitution. Keep on and no one will do this job.
Maybe the president should do a tour, oh, I forgot, he was not in the military.
March 4th, 2010 - 10:48 am
I’m sorry I thought wanted my opinion.
March 4th, 2010 - 10:49 am
This man with the fat lip deserves no SLACK
March 4th, 2010 - 11:57 am
To Ian’s comment of 9 Dec 09…
What about the rights of the unarmed ? civilian contractors who were murdered, stripped and set afire???
You and your ilk should pack up and leave the good ol US of A. Maybe try offering some aid and comfort to Al Queda I’d love to see their reception to your arrival at an Al Queda camp. After all, they’re just fighting the “infidel”,they would welcome your “peace through social justice” BS.
God bless and keep these young hero Seals. God bless our country . God help us all from this liberal, progressive mind-set that seems to now have infiltrated our military ranks.
Bill M
March 4th, 2010 - 12:36 pm
What I want General Cleveland and the rest of the “politically correct bleeding hearts to know is this; if you are willing to put your life on the line for the freedom of others and what you believe in, you cannot fight successfully without hatred and animosity toward the enemy. Otherwise you are nothing but a paid killer. These SEALs are the kind of fighting men that are required in fighting terror because they have committed themselves physically, mentally and spiritually and they should not be admonished or penalized for their zeal. Terrorists have made themselves sub-human and don’t warrant humane treatment or human rights. The good General needs to quit playing politics and take a course in what the defense of this country requires. There can be no rules of engagement or “Geneva Convention” when it comes to combating terrorists. These “conflicts” would have been over long ago had our “powder-puff” politicians turned a deaf ear to the ACLU and turned our military loose on these dogs.
March 4th, 2010 - 12:59 pm
I cannot for the life of me understand why they let the $*@! even live. Keep this type of self distruction up and our military will only attract the worse instead of the best we now have.
My advice to all brave millitay personel is “TAKE NO PRISONERS!” The simple execution of this vermin would have stopped this nonsense right then and there. WE have trained these men risked everything to bring this type dirt-bag to justice.
Over 99% of all Americans owe their freedom to our fighting forces. That’s right over 99%! Less than 1% have ever worn the uniform of this nation. The other 99% have no concept of true battle and the horrors it has inflicted on those of us who have served. If you throw the brave men back to the ilk they sought to protect us from, then you had better learn to sleep with one eye open. What happens on distant battlefields today, will be what will happen soon enough right here.
Free the SEALS NOW!!!!!!
C Jelinger
March 4th, 2010 - 6:19 pm
After hearing about this on Fox News for the past two days, I feel compelled to voice my opion.
Why is it we can send our moms and dads brothers and sisters out to protect this great country of ours and yet god for bid you suposeably you hit someone in the stomach and slap them after they master minded the killing of 4 american, and now they look forward to a court martial. WOW….What the hell is this country coming to. These Three men along with the rest of the service men and women are out there day after day so that we can all sleep at peace at night.
I think these men deserve a great big THANK YOU for your service, and I’m sorry some MORON thinks her needs to make a political statement.
March 6th, 2010 - 2:13 pm
These are my thought as a citizen of the USA. I believe Obama is trying to undermine and destroy our military and our way of life. As he said he “wanted to transform America.”
I believe Major General Cleveland is part of the coup and as a black man is supporting Pres Obama over his duties to his men and the military. Both Obama and Cleveland have enjoyed the extra rights and privledges Affirmative Action affords and accords. This is further redistribution of rights inside and out of the military.
Furthermore, when the Somali pirates captured a certain captain and the Navy Seals were told to stand down by the White House they did until they understood Obama was never going to act against the Muslim Somali pirates. It was decided to follow a rule where under duress they could act without direct orders bypassing Obama. They killed the pirates as they’d had the opportunity to do many times but were held back by Obama himself.
Obama then took credit but was furious. Decided to use it as a press win. What is happening now is payback to the Navy Seals. Cleveland is Obama’s boy and fellow sympathizer.
Understand fellow citizens a Coup is underway and these brave Navy Seals are being punished and humiliated by an America hating president with no tolerance for anything but adulation and prostration.
Look what is happening in our country. Government takeovers of car industry, banks, student loans now handed out by government loans only(government chooses who goes to college), medical care in the hands of government bureaucrats, retirement funds etc. Progressivism is well beyond socialism, it is Communism.
Wake up. A coup is underway and their leader is in the White House.
March 8th, 2010 - 4:41 pm
This……this thing, is an obscenity.
Refuse to prosecute. What will they dare to do?
March 11th, 2010 - 8:44 am
If you look up the real full story. The men claim they never touched the detainee. He was in their custody and they handed him over to the Iraqi police, as they were ordered. It was not until he was handed back over to the Americans that these claims came into play. Unfortunately there were no (CYA) pictures taken of the detainee as he was handed over to prove that he was not harmed prior to the Iraqis getting him.
Another thing that seems to be left out is the fact that the Navy originally wanted to give them an Article 15, a way to respond to the claims without the Seals being found guilty or innocent, it was the Seals that chose to have the court martial trial because they wanted to pronounce their innocence. If the military had just dismissed these accusations then instead of this story we would be hearing about how the military is allowing soldiers to break the rules and then covering it up. Either way the Navy went it seems they would be crucified in the half truths that the media tells.
Many of you should do some research before spouting off half cocked.
March 17th, 2010 - 10:43 am
This is just a bunch of Bull! Our Seal are the best! you dont take the word of a terrorist over our Seal what is wrong with the leader of these man, its unreal this is going on. lady and gentalman this is one of the most wanted terrorist. what is wrong with this picture, these are American boy that risk it all for duty, honor and country!
I dont think this administration is going to do anything about this but Obama should stop this already enough is enough !
Felix Fontanez USN Ret
March 31st, 2010 - 1:46 pm
General Cleveland should put a stop to see stupidity immediately! He has the authority to do so since it is his office that is bringing the prosecution. This is shameful for our military and the United States of America. Do the right thing General Cleveland and drop these ridiculous and abusive charges against our boys for doing their jobs and then pin a Silver Star on them for doing their jobs well! How in the hell can we expect our sons and daughters in the military to hold their heads high when their commanders pull crap like this?
March 31st, 2010 - 1:51 pm
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY DISGRACEFUL, JUST ANOTHER SIGN OF THE TERRIBLE CONDITION THAT OUR COUNTRY IS IN! GOD BLESS THOSE NAVY SEALS AND ALL THE MEN & WOMEN THAT SERVE!
March 31st, 2010 - 1:55 pm
Here is a good reason Not to serve in the military under
our present Commander in Chief. It is apparent he holds
this country in contempt and the people as mere pawns in his
Power Grab. His insidious policies, now reaching so far as
crippling our Special Forces as they do their dangerous
work on behalf of us…USA, Heroes, to be punitively prosecuted
for striking an unarmed Terrorist, who is responsible
for the blackened and charred bodies of 3 American
contractors/Civilians who hung from a bridge, merits
more than the right to remain silent. It merits
at a minimum. a butt kicking that will render him unable
to spread his s__t around for many years to come.
Appartently the men of the U. S. military forces are
merely “fresh meat” for our enemies. Prosecution
being their reward for their meritorious service.
Major General Cleveland could stop this!! It is more
political than criminal for the Seals and more criminal
than political that our government would stoop so low
to prosecute heroes, who are more deserving of a medal.
Major General Cleveland stop this now!!
Obama, if necessary, Pardon these men..now!!
In the process, restore their good names!
This prosecution is a NATIONAL DISGRACE!!
March 31st, 2010 - 10:53 pm
This is ridiculous. No one should question a Navy Seal especially when its War. Do you think the Enemy would show us kindness and bring us to trial? An eye for an eye. Navy Seals and any one in the Military are heroes and make sure we breath every day. Our Politicians make me sick. Major General stop this and honor our men who protect us from harm!
April 16th, 2010 - 4:43 am
Well – now we see how some folks will sell thier souls to move up the ladder. First John Murtha and now this clown Major General Charles T. Cleveland! They have no Honor and will be remebered as COWARDS! You lay down with dogs – you get fleas – and the NObama & Clinton administations have infused the Military with big hairy sheep dogs.
Sepmer Fi – Navy and the hell with Cleveland.
And to Sec of Navy for wanting to name a ship after COWARD Murtha!
May 6th, 2010 - 4:09 pm
Major General Charles T. Cleveland, your name will forever be remember with this infamous incident. I wonder… when you look in the mirror during your morning shave, what starrs back at you? I’m hoping it’s shame.
To all SEALs and SPEC OPs members everywhere: Thank you for your efforts to keep us free and our lives more secure.
July 25th, 2010 - 6:33 am
The underlying assumption here is that if a person takes the high road, he will set an example to be admired and followed by others. While this may be true in high school, in a family or even in business – it has no proven effect in war, criminal activity or on the behaviour of people of intrinsically evil people. Following the Marquis of Queensbury rules in warfare will, battle by battle, cause you to lose. And to be forced to adapt the customs, culture and values of your conquerer. The Japanese crucified tens of thousands, the Germans gassed tens of millions. Had we lost to them, our political, legal and military values would reflect this ancient, barbaric mind set.
When the war is won, you do not foolishly believe it was because you were on the side of truth, justice and the American way. Or even that God was on our side. It was because you had the stronger desire to win – possibly because your belief in your values was stronger than your enemies. NOT because you carried that excess baggage into battle. Go Navy!